{"id":104604,"date":"2025-02-03T11:54:14","date_gmt":"2025-02-03T10:54:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.artsupp.com\/jan-fabre-notre-interview\/"},"modified":"2025-02-03T11:54:14","modified_gmt":"2025-02-03T10:54:14","slug":"jan-fabre-notre-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.artsupp.com\/fr\/jan-fabre-notre-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Jan Fabre, notre interview"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>\u00c0<strong> la Galleria Mucciaccia de Rome,<\/strong> du<strong> 31 janvier au 1er mars 2025,<\/strong> s&#8217;ouvre l&#8217;exposition de l&#8217;artiste belge <strong>Jan Fabre<\/strong> intitul\u00e9e<em> <strong>Chansons des Canaries, Chansons des Gitans<\/strong>.<\/em> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>N\u00e9 en 1958, <strong>Fabre<\/strong> est sans aucun doute l&#8217;un des <strong>plus grands innovateurs de la sc\u00e8ne contemporaine<\/strong> dans l&#8217;art mais aussi dans le th\u00e9\u00e2tre. Nous avons eu l&#8217;occasion de le rencontrer et de l&#8217;interviewer. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Voici ce qu&#8217;a dit<\/strong> <strong>Jan Fabre<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"749\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.artsupp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/jan-fabre.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-101003\" style=\"width:517px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.artsupp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/jan-fabre.jpeg 750w, https:\/\/blog.artsupp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/jan-fabre-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/blog.artsupp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/jan-fabre-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/blog.artsupp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/jan-fabre-90x90.jpeg 90w, https:\/\/blog.artsupp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/jan-fabre-250x250.jpeg 250w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Jan Fabre, photo Magazzino Gallery. <\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>A :<\/strong> Nous savons que vous avez l&#8217;habitude d&#8217;int\u00e9grer de nombreuses exp\u00e9riences personnelles dans vos expositions. M\u00eame dans celle-ci, il y a plusieurs r\u00e9f\u00e9rences \u00e0 votre sph\u00e8re personnelle. Par exemple, dans la premi\u00e8re partie de l&#8217;exposition, intitul\u00e9e <strong>Chansons des Canaries, <\/strong>les principaux hommages sont rendus \u00e0 votre fr\u00e8re Emiel et \u00e0 Robert Stroud \u201c<strong>Birdman d&#8217;Alcatraz<\/strong>\u201d, un d\u00e9tenu qui, durant son incarc\u00e9ration, est devenu entomologiste et expert en canaris. Dans la deuxi\u00e8me partie, <strong>Chanson des Gitans<\/strong>, il y a votre fils accompagn\u00e9 de la musique de <strong>Django Reinhardt<\/strong>, c\u00e9l\u00e8bre jazzman belge. Pensez-vous que c&#8217;est l&#8217;exposition o\u00f9 il y a le plus de votre sph\u00e8re personnelle ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>JF :<\/strong> Oui, l&#8217;exposition est divis\u00e9e en deux parties. Il y a mon fils, <strong>Django Gennaro Fabre<\/strong>, qui a maintenant 3 ans mais quand j&#8217;ai r\u00e9alis\u00e9 les sculptures qui le repr\u00e9sentent, il avait 5 mois et demi. J&#8217;ai travaill\u00e9 sur ces sculptures pendant deux ans et demi et, gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 mon fils, j&#8217;ai appris la diff\u00e9rence entre <strong>intelligence et conscience<\/strong>. Son nom, <strong>Django<\/strong>, est inspir\u00e9 du grand musicien de jazz <strong>Django Reinhardt<\/strong> dont mon p\u00e8re \u00e9tait un grand fan.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>A<\/strong> : En restant sur la <strong>musique<\/strong>, c&#8217;est certainement une partie importante de son travail et de son processus artistique. Peut-il nous donner quelques conseils ? Qui sont les <strong>musiciens<\/strong> ou le <strong>genre<\/strong> qu&#8217;il appr\u00e9cie le plus ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>JF: <\/strong>Tout d&#8217;abord, j&#8217;ai toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 un grand admirateur des <strong>Beatles,<\/strong> surtout quand j&#8217;\u00e9tais plus jeune ; puis <strong>David Bowie<\/strong> \u00e0 ses heures de gloire, m\u00eame si aujourd&#8217;hui encore, il m&#8217;arrive d&#8217;\u00e9couter ses albums, et ensuite, <strong>Jim Morrison.<\/strong><\/em> Ce sont d\u00e9finitivement mes pr\u00e9f\u00e9r\u00e9s. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>A:<\/strong> En passant \u00e0 l&#8217;art, nous avons lu qu&#8217;il y a <strong>Rubens, Van Eyck, Bosch et Rops<\/strong>, qui peut-\u00eatre vous est particuli\u00e8rement proche en raison d&#8217;une communaut\u00e9 de th\u00e8mes, notamment la mort. Mais si vous deviez choisir aujourd&#8217;hui, parmi les <strong>artistes contemporains<\/strong> que vous aimez, qui seraient-ils ? Pouvez-vous nous sugg\u00e9rer des <strong>noms pertinents dans l&#8217;art contemporain<\/strong> qui, selon votre go\u00fbt, pourraient faire des choses int\u00e9ressantes dans un avenir proche ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JF :<\/strong><em> Je suis comme un nain n\u00e9 dans un pays de g\u00e9ants. Je veux dire, <strong>Rubens<\/strong> est un g\u00e9nie : quand tu regardes ses \u0153uvres, la technique et les symboles qu&#8217;il utilise, sans parler de la lumi\u00e8re. Encore aujourd&#8217;hui, quand je peins, je regarde et m&#8217;inspire de la lumi\u00e8re chez Rubens. Je tire encore de l&#8217;inspiration de Bosch et Van Eyck. Ce sont mes plus grands ma\u00eetres. Pour les <strong>artistes contemporains<\/strong>, j&#8217;ai de fantastiques coll\u00e8gues <strong>en Belgique<\/strong> ; bien que travaillant de mani\u00e8re tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rente, j&#8217;appr\u00e9cie beaucoup par exemple <strong>Thierry De Cordier<\/strong>, <strong style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Berlinde De Bruyckere<\/strong>, <strong>Micha\u00ebl Borremans<\/strong>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><br><strong>A :<\/strong> Elle est la seule artiste vivante \u00e0 avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 expos\u00e9e dans des mus\u00e9es de la renomm\u00e9e du<strong> Louvre<\/strong> <strong>\u00e0 Paris<\/strong> ou de l\u2019<strong>Hermitage<\/strong> <strong>de Saint-P\u00e9tersbourg.<\/strong> Si elle devait penser \u00e0 un autre mus\u00e9e o\u00f9 elle aimerait exposer, lequel serait-ce ? En a-t-elle un pr\u00e9f\u00e9r\u00e9 ?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JF :<\/strong> <em>Il existe ce mus\u00e9e qui m&#8217;a vraiment marqu\u00e9 quand j&#8217;\u00e9tais plus jeune, le <strong>Mus\u00e9e du Caire en \u00c9gypte.<\/strong> Je crois que mon art peut bien se fondre avec le mus\u00e9e du <strong>Caire,<\/strong> par exemple lorsque l&#8217;on observe les anciennes fresques, beaucoup d&#8217;entre elles parlent de transcendance : tout dans cet art tourne autour des <strong>vibrations et de l&#8217;\u00e9nergie.<\/strong> De plus, je suis passionn\u00e9 par <strong>l&#8217;entomologie,<\/strong> je collectionne des scarab\u00e9es et le scarab\u00e9e \u00e9tait un symbole fondamental dans la sculpture \u00e9gyptienne. <strong>Ce serait un r\u00eave pour moi de cr\u00e9er un dialogue entre ce mus\u00e9e et mes \u0153uvres.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>A :<\/strong> Dans son art, d&#8217;une certaine mani\u00e8re, <strong>le corps<\/strong> revient toujours dans toutes ses d\u00e9clinaisons. Dans ce cas, en exposition, il y a le <strong>cerveau<\/strong>. Pourquoi a-t-il choisi cet organe en particulier, est-il connect\u00e9 \u00e0 l&#8217;\u00e9nergie dont vous parliez auparavant ?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JF :<\/strong> <em>Le cerveau est la partie la plus importante du corps humain.<strong> Quand il n&#8217;y a pas d&#8217;imagination, il n&#8217;y a pas de connaissance. <\/strong>Le <strong>canari<\/strong> en revanche joue le r\u00f4le d&#8217;observateur et d&#8217;explorateur, ce n&#8217;est pas un hasard s&#8217;il \u00e9tait utilis\u00e9 par les mineurs en <strong>Belgique<\/strong> pour descendre dans les mines, si le canari s&#8217;\u00e9vanouissait, c&#8217;\u00e9tait un signe de manque d&#8217;oxyg\u00e8ne et les mineurs savaient qu&#8217;ils devaient remonter \u00e0 la surface. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><br><strong>A : <\/strong>Vous avez souvent soulign\u00e9 \u00e0 quel point le concept de beaut\u00e9 est fondamental dans votre art, une beaut\u00e9 que vous avez d\u00e9crite dans plusieurs interviews comme un papillon. Si on le touche, il y a le risque de le briser. Pouvez-vous en parler davantage ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:19px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JF :<\/strong><em> Oui, j&#8217;ai souvent utilis\u00e9 cette m\u00e9taphore. La beaut\u00e9 est comme un papillon, si on le touche, il se brise. C&#8217;est un peu comme penser \u00e0 l&#8217;intelligence et \u00e0 la conscience. 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